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		<description><![CDATA[Typically, a Free-For-All Friday means that we don&#8217;t come to the discussion with any particular topics in mind, but this past week, there was an interesting debate about call centers over on Lisa&#8217;s Apartment Expert Facebook page. Mark Juleen noted another call center discussion over at Multifamily Insiders, so we led off #AptChat by throwing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typically, a Free-For-All Friday means that we don&#8217;t come to the discussion with any particular topics in mind, but this past week, there was <a href="http://www.facebook.com/ApartmentExpert?v=feed&#038;story_fbid=329565957107">an interesting debate about call centers</a> over on <a href="http://www.facebook.com/ApartmentExpert">Lisa&#8217;s Apartment Expert Facebook page</a>. Mark Juleen noted another <a href="http://bit.ly/96UFtM">call center discussion over at Multifamily Insiders</a>, so we led off #AptChat by throwing the question to the group. Other topics discussed included concessions, human directionals and resident referral programs. It&#8217;s good to see that you don&#8217;t have strong opinions on any of these subjects.</p>
<p><strong>Are call centers good? Do you like them?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/nesselinc/status/9696514125">Nessel Inc.</a>: We love being able to market that you will get a person 24/7.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/Aptdoctor/status/9696557138">Doug Chasick</a>: Call Cntr great for overflow and emerg &#8211; concerned about outsrcng ALL calls to off-site, esp. resident calls.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/artchickhb/status/9696601825">Heather Blume</a>: When your residents call, they don&#8217;t want to call somewhere that isn&#8217;t the office.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/sarasgraham/status/9696618329">Sara Graham</a>: We&#8217;re evaluating call centers this spring &#8211; Level One seems to be the 800 lb gorilla.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/nesselinc/status/9696632279">Nessel Inc.</a>: In our experience we&#8217;ve found the agents are quite successful at getting the caller to schedule an appointment. Which we love.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/kimcoryfitness/status/9696678953">Kim Cory</a>: Not a fan of call centers. As a true sales person myself I have to feel, touch &#038; be part of my product to really sell it.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/lisatrosien/status/9696702283">Lisa Trosien</a>: I was, originally, anti-call center. Not anymore. Too many properties don&#8217;t answer the phone. This solves that problem.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/MultifamilyPro/status/9696747046">Tami Siewruk</a>: Call Centers are necessary. Fact: People R looking for APTs when the office is closed. Trend: INSTANT GRATIFICATION.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/Eric_Urbane/status/9696768179">Eric Brown</a>: Our original reason for using a Call Center, was folks weren&#8217;t answering the phone. We replaced them with ones who do.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/theaptnerd/status/9696797020">Mark Juleen</a>: If you want your community to be sold like it is a commodity then call centers are fine.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/RealPage/status/9696803835">RealPage</a>: Our research shows that our contact center answers 97% of all calls that you designate us to take.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/BobGura/status/9696825402">Bob Gura</a>: After a year with a call center we have concluded that we are much more effective than the call center.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/theaptnerd/status/9696848886">Mark Juleen</a>: Why are we outsourcing the face of our brands and our product? Why not outsource reports &#038; accounting task garbage instead?</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/TheEllipseCow/status/9696875238">Elysa Rice</a>: As a resident (and previous prospect) I wouldn&#8217;t expect to talk to a person at midnight &#8230; that&#8217;s just weird.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/RealtyDataTrust/status/9696923968">Realty Data Trust</a>: Call centers aren&#8217;t just for calls either. Email leads can be handled by industry call centers.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/DavidKotowski/status/9696989515">David Kotowski</a>: I think call centers probably benefit our customers, especially as so many companies are still having to cut staffing levels.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/theaptnerd/status/9697105953">Mark Juleen</a>: Real life example from a call center. Prospect &#8211; &#8220;Do you have a pool?&#8221; Center Rep &#8211; &#8220;Um, let me check.&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/theaptnerd/status/9697241205">Mark Juleen</a>: Real life example from a call center. Rep &#8211; &#8220;The One Bedroom is 695 sq. ft.&#8221; Prospect &#8211; &#8220;That&#8217;s kind of small.&#8221; Rep &#8211; &#8220;Yes, it is.&#8221;</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/MultifamilyPro/status/9697304122">Tami Siewruk</a>: REALITY CHECK LP&#8217;s cnt answer every call we have them doing more than they cn handle, answer take away all the NON leasing items.</li>
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<p><strong>What about &#8216;culture&#8217;? Can a call center communicate the &#8216;culture&#8217; of your sites?</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/artchickhb/status/9696981233">Heather Blume</a>: Culture = personality, and some can, depending on how they hire. But usually, the flat tone conveys 1 thing &#8211; Apathy.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/PCMGtwit/status/9697006525">Ryan VanDenabeele</a>: You can&#8217;t train call center people to represent your brand. They just don&#8217;t care like you do. I worked in one when I was a kid.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/RealPage/status/9697011251">RealPage</a>: Well trained contact center reps can capture the brand and the culture of each property.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/30lines/status/9697017190">Mike Whaling</a>: Is anyone providing their blog feed and social media info to their call center team?</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/Aptdoctor/status/9697035910">Doug Chasick</a>: Prob is we try 2make Call Cntr what they are not &#8212; culture &#8212; instead of using 4 what they are &#8212; cover phone when we can&#8217;t.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/RealPage/status/9697062808">RealPage</a>: We offer continuing education to help refresh information about particular properties and help represent the culture.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/mdc912/status/9697187503">Michael Cunningham</a>: We work with the communities from day one to find out their preferences, amenities, specials, etc.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/umfjoey/status/9697194200">Joe Youngblood</a>: Maybe centers need to foster closer relationships? and property managers need to facilitate that with updated data?</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/lisatrosien/status/9697222189">Lisa Trosien</a>: I know that one of my clients meets 2x a year with the LP&#8217;s at the call center to make sure they &#8216;get&#8217; the culture.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/Jrosseth/status/9697514148">Janet Rosseth</a>: The best on-site agents know how to circle back with prospects handled by a call center to personalize the experience.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/crovean/status/9697682857">Nashville Web Design</a>: Call centers are impersonal but they are good to get prospect information for LP to call back.</li>
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<p><strong>Even more comments on Call Centers:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/lisatrosien/status/9697372442">Lisa Trosien</a>: Typical LP&#8217;s on CCenters say they are in a &#8216;centralized leasing office&#8217;.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/lisatrosien/status/9697410261">Lisa Trosien</a>: I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the solution for every property.I think you need to weigh the pro&#8217;s and con&#8217;s seriously b4 u make your decision.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/RealPage/status/9697466891">RealPage</a>: According to Satisfacts, only 52% of calls will be answered during office hours.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/artchickhb/status/9697510558">Heather Blume</a>: A leasing professional CANNOT get EVERY single call. It&#8217;s just not realistic.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/MultifamilyPro/status/9697609791">Tami Siewruk</a>: Part of the answer is staggered staffing hrs! Helps tremendously U know when U get the most calls &#038; visits.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/Jrosseth/status/9697641176">Janet Rosseth</a>: I had an internal call center. Awesome front line and x-tra hands, but overhead was too costly to go 24/7 and handle emails.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/lisatrosien/status/9697712407">Lisa Trosien</a>: I&#8217;ve found a lot of the issues with call centers is getting the site people to call back on the leads from the call center.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/kimcoryfitness/status/9697831811">Kim Cory</a>: leasing does not want 2 respond b/c no connection. LIke calling a guy after a date, must have connection 2 call again.</li>
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<p>There were a few questions about companies that have successfully implemented internal call centers, with <a href="http://www.equityapartments.com/">Equity</a>, <a href="http://www.aimco.com/">AIMCO</a> and <a href="http://www.maac.net/">Mid-America</a> all used as positive examples.</p>
<p>The conversation then moved to live chat, and there were strong opinions on this subject, too:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/artchickhb/status/9697699445">Heather Blume</a>: Live chat can be an excellent first contact point for a potential resident.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/Eric_Urbane/status/9697712279">Eric Brown</a>: We tried Live Chat, but could not effectively manage it, nor did prospects like it, they were creeped out.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/Jrosseth/status/9697747843">Janet Rosseth</a>: I think I heard a stat that L1 was converting 80% of live chats to appointments. If that&#8217;s correct, it&#8217;s staggering!</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Who has kicked butt with resident referral programs? What&#8217;s made it successful?</strong> (Asked by <a href="http://twitter.com/BobGura">Bob Gura</a>)</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/sarasgraham/status/9697121723">Sara Graham</a>: At some props, we offer a tiered res ref model: 1st referral gets $250, 2nd gets $500, 3rd gets $750 and 4th gets $1000.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/artchickhb/status/9697170353">Heather Blume</a>: I had one woman in my session this week who was talking about how they have a resident who they almost PAY to live there.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/lisatrosien/status/9697292244">Lisa Trosien</a>: Try having the referral fee be higher right after move in when their enthusiasm is very high.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Other noteworthy comments from the chat:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/DavidKotowski/status/9697997358">David Kotowski</a>: I worked for a company that had a policy of only hiring attractive people. I&#8217;m not kidding. Staffing meetings were odd.</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/JenKennedy_PCMG/status/9698081062">Bob Gura</a>: Great personalities lease. Make the visit memorable!</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/BakeXtraCookies/status/9698096846">Bake Extra Cookies</a>: We&#8217;re seeing our user&#8217;s online statistics DOUBLE. Might be indicating a slightly early leasing season&#8230;</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/lisatrosien/status/9698558050">Lisa Trosien</a>: So to summarize: human directionals in curling pants can answer your phones.
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<p>As you can imagine, this edition of #AptChat was a lot of fun for everyone. (This week&#8217;s stats: 512 tweets from 63 different contributors.) I couldn&#8217;t get all the great comments in the recap, so make sure you check out <a href="http://wthashtag.com/transcript.php?page_id=2249&#038;start_date=2010-02-26&#038;end_date=2010-02-26&#038;export_type=HTML">the full transcript</a> when you get a chance.</p>
<p><em>So what do you think? Are you for or against outside call centers? If you&#8217;re using one now, or have used a call center in the past, what has been your experience? What are some of your best resident referral ideas? It&#8217;s your turn to show off &#8230; tell us what you know in the comments!</em></p>
<p>Have a topic you&#8217;d like to discuss on a future #AptChat? <a href="/suggest-a-topic/">Tell us about it!</a></p>
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